202512 - Northern Ireland Advisory Group Minutes - December 2025

Minutes

Northern Ireland Advisory Group

Tuesday 9 December 2025, 11:30 to 15:00
The Mount Conference Centre and via Zoom

Permanent Members Present

David McDonald (Chairperson)
Niqi Rainey
Charles Rainey
Collette Jones
Robert Dallas
Caroline Wheeler

Affiliate Members Present

Amanda Paul

Department of Health Representatives in attendance

Tina Price

ILF Scotland Representatives in Attendance

Peter Scott
Linda Scott
Emma O’Neill
Lee House
Sandra Sweeney
Jill Fotheringham
Jackie Aitken via Zoom
Karen Burnett via Zoom
Anne Marie Monaghan via Zoom

Permanent Members Apologies

N / A

1. Housekeeping, Welcome, Apologies and Introductions

Lee Informed the Members of the fire exits and confirmed there were no fire drills planned for today.

David welcomed everyone warmly and asked everyone to introduce themselves before starting the meeting.

2. Minutes from Previous Meeting

The minutes from the previous meeting were reviewed and discussed. Members confirmed their accuracy.

The Group approved the previous Meeting’s minutes. ILF Scotland’s Communications Team will upload to the website.

Actions from previous Meeting

3. Matters Arising

Sandra gave the Group an update on recent discussions with CILNI and ICMS, which is based in Scotland. These discussions have focused on whether these organisations could act as award managers for people in NI who receive funding.

The Group also discussed whether award managers should be paid. Caroline explained the pressure and challenges she experiences managing a DP, ILF Award and Guardianship. She expressed concerns about what might happen if she were unable to maintain this for her son and brother who both receive ILF funding. Peter explained that ILF Scotland cannot pay award managers and that this is a voluntary role – in the event that someone was unable to maintain their role of Award Manager alongside the other roles Caroline described, Emma explained that this in theory should be picked up by the Trust as they hold primary responsibility for a person’s support needs. It was agreed that due to the complex nature of award management that a separate meeting would be scheduled in order to focus solely on this issue.

Finally, the group raised the issue of paying arrears in advance. This will continue to be looked at by all parties.

4. Minister Meeting

David talked about the recent parliamentary event where ILF Scotland was mentioned three times by speakers. Charles spoke about Independent Living, and David only had a minute or two to speak at the event. Amanda was also there and spoke about living independently. Unfortunately, the Minister was not present at that stage and missed the speeches. David said the event attracted media coverage and news appearances, with multiple views online. Amanda mentioned she was disappointed that the Minister did not acknowledge them.

Linda advised that the Minister would like to meet in the new year, in late January or early February. The meeting will be held in Castle Buildings at Stormont. Tina said she is pulling all the details together. The Group discussed days for the meeting, and Tina noted that Tuesday is an Assembly business day. The Group suggested that an afternoon meeting would work best to give people the best chance to attend.

Tina told the Group that the submission for reopening the fund is now with the Minister. She said the meeting will be an opportunity for the Group to express their views regarding reopening the fund in Northern Ireland and for the Minister to ask questions regarding this.

Charles, David, Amanda, and Caroline agreed they would meet before the Minister’s meeting to prepare.

5. Board Update

Anne-Marie told the Group that they have been recruiting new members for the Board and have now identified two people to join. One of the new members is from Northern Ireland. Anne-Marie explained that there were 25 applicants for the two available roles. These appointments have now been agreed by the Minister.

Both new members will start their roles in 2026. Anne-Marie also said they are now looking to recruit an additional person who can link in with the Transition Fund and has experience and knowledge in this area.

6. Policy Update

Linda discussed the next increase in the PA rate, which will rise from £12.21 to £12.71 in April 2026. This change will be implemented automatically by ILF Scotland. Linda said she will provide an update on progress at the next meeting.

The DoH was asked previously to clarify the policy around overnight rates. Tina confirmed this is still being reviewed. There is ongoing research with the Trusts across Northern Ireland, and Tina confirmed that an update will be given at the next meeting.

Timing of Communications

In future, there should be a pre-meeting to discuss the agenda with the Chairperson and the Depute Chairperson, and all minutes should be completed shortly after each meeting for review.

DP User Group NI Facebook page

The Group discussed how best to manage ILF-related queries on the page. It was agreed that admins like Niqi and Caroline would flag any relevant posts or questions to ILF Scotland’s communications team, who reply to any messages via the ILF Scotland Facebook account. There was also a proposal to feature ILF’s introductory post prominently on the group page and encourage users to comment with questions. This would allow ILF to respond directly and accurately, avoiding misinformation. The Group emphasised the importance of clear, accessible communication, especially given the frequent confusion between ILF and Trust-managed direct payments.

Terms of Reference (ToR)

Linda advised the ToR have been updated to reflect changes to pre-meeting processes. Due to time constraints group members were asked to review the ToR and let her know if there any further amendments were required.

6. Re-Opening of ILF in NI

Members expressed frustration at the lack of accountability and questioned the sincerity of political support. David suggested raising the issue to the Vice Chair of the Committee for Health and copying relevant stakeholders into future correspondence. The Group agreed that advocacy efforts must continue, and that presenting directly to the Committee for Health could be a powerful next step. There was also discussion about involving disabled speakers in upcoming parliamentary events to strengthen the case for re-opening the Fund.

7. Any Other Business

It was noted by the Group that a Wednesday or Thursday would be suitable for the meeting with the Minister, with a time of 12:00 to 3:00 PM. The suggested dates were 12th, 21st, and 28th January.

The Group also discussed the next Joint Advisory Group meeting and agreed to include a discussion on the Award Manager policy. Linda advised that Policy 26 is due for review in March 2026.

Finally, the Group asked for it to be noted in the minutes to thank Colin Dunlop for all his work in supporting the Group and ILF Scotland as he moves on to his new role.

8. Day, Date and Times of Next Meeting

Lee agreed to look at different food options for lunch at future meetings.

The next meeting dates proposed were 2 March or 10 March. Lee will check with The Mount to see if these dates are available. If not, other suggested dates were 11 March 25 March, and 31 March.

202509 - Northern Ireland Advisory Group Minutes - September 2025

Minutes

Northern Ireland Advisory Group

Tuesday 16 September 2025, 11:30 to 15:00
The Mount Conference Centre and via Zoom

Permanent Members Present

David McDonald - Chairperson
Niqi Rainey
Collette Jones

Affiliate Members Present

Amanda Paul (via Zoom)

ILF Scotland Representatives in Attendance

Peter Scott
Harvey Tilley
Linda Scott (via zoom)
Emma O’Neill (via zoom)
Lee House
Sandra Sweeney (via zoom)

Permanent Members Apologies

Caroline Wheeler
Michaela Hollywood
Frances McHugh
Robert Dallas

1. Housekeeping, Welcome, Apologies and Introductions

Lee Informed the Members of the emergency exits and confirmed there were no emergency drills planned for today.

David welcomed everyone warmly, expressing appreciation for their continued commitment to the Advisory Group. Introductions were made, with attendees sharing their names and roles. This was particularly helpful for newer members and those joining remotely.

There was a sense of urgency about the future of ILF in Northern Ireland, with several members expressing hope for progress on re-opening the Fund. David referred to the challenges faced in securing meetings with political representatives and emphasised the importance of persistence and strategic advocacy.

Apologies were noted for members unable to attend, including those affected by technical issues. The Group expressed understanding and agreed to follow up with absent members to ensure they remained informed about key decisions and updates.

This item also prompted a brief discussion about improving accessibility for future meetings, including better support for remote participants and more timely communication in advance of sessions.

2. Minutes from Previous Meeting

Group members reviewed and discussed the minutes from the previous meeting and confirmed their accuracy. The previous Meeting’s minutes were approved and ILF Scotland’s Communications Team will upload to the website.

Actions from previous Meeting

3. Matters Arising

A meeting had been scheduled between Robbie Butler MLA, Mark McGuikin, and Colin Dunlop to discuss the re-opening of ILF in Northern Ireland. Unfortunately, the meeting did not happen, and no follow-up communication has been received.

The Group debated next steps, including whether to pursue the matter with the Vice Chair of the Committee for Health and to formally request an opportunity to present our case to it. There was consensus that the situation needed to be addressed diplomatically but firmly, to ensure the Group’s concerns were taken seriously by political stakeholders. The Group agreed to make the request.

4. 10-Year Celebration Feedback

The Group reflected on the recent 10-year celebration event, which marked a significant milestone for ILF Scotland, highlighting the event’s success in showcasing the impact of the Fund and the importance of independent living. The celebration was not only a moment of pride but also a strategic opportunity to raise awareness among stakeholders and the wider public.

Feedback from attendees was generally positive, with many appreciating the stories shared by Recipients and the emphasis on co-production. However, there were also logistical challenges and suggestions for improvement. For example, some felt that future events should ensure better accessibility for remote participants. The Group agreed that lessons learned from this event should inform planning for future engagements, particularly those aimed at influencing policy and public perception.

5. Policy Update

Linda spoke about ongoing work around the Charter for Involvement and the Feedback Strategy, both of which are central to ILF Scotland’s commitment to co-production and continuous improvement. The Group discussed the need for more proactive engagement with politicians and officials.

There was also discussion around the uplift in payments, which had been processed more efficiently than in previous years. The uplift for Northern Ireland was notably generous at 9.78%, compared to 5% in Scotland, and included considerations for employer national insurance contributions. Members welcomed this progress, but Peter cautioned that future funding to ILF Scotland from the Department of Health NI would need to increase to maintain service levels, especially given the likelihood of another national minimum wage hourly rate uplift next year.

Charter for Involvement

Linda presented an overview of progress in key areas of the Charter for Involvement, which includes twelve standards aimed at ensuring disabled people are meaningfully involved in decisions that affect their lives. She highlighted progress made through joint Advisory Group meetings and co-production events, including the parliamentary event in Scotland, the engagement events to develop ILF Scotland’s new Strategic Plan and the recent 10-year anniversary celebrations in Northern Ireland and Scotland.

She highlighted that the Charter’s principles are embedded in ILF Scotland’s strategic planning and in ongoing marketing and communications. Examples include case studies and the PA recruitment campaign that aim to emphases independence and empowerment. Linda encouraged members to continue to identify priority areas for the Charter and to provide feedback on how it could be better implemented across services.

Feedback Strategy

Emma introduced the draft Feedback Strategy, which aims to formalise how ILF Scotland gathers and responds to feedback from Recipients, Award Managers, and other stakeholders. A draft Service Charter is included in the Feedback Strategy that sets out a number of service standards that people can expect from ILF Scotland. The aim is to achieve sign off from ILF Scotland’s Board at its next meeting in November.

The Group discussed the importance of creating accessible and routine mechanisms for feedback. Emma invited members to suggest ideas about how people might share their experiences and needs, emphasising that feedback should inform service improvements and policy development. There was also discussion about aligning ILF Scotland’s feedback approach with best practice from other organisations, and ensuring that responses are timely, transparent, and meaningful.

6. Re-Opening of ILF in NI

Members expressed frustration at the lack of accountability and questioned the sincerity of political support. David suggested raising the issue to the Vice Chair of the Committee for Health and copying relevant stakeholders into future correspondence. The Group agreed that advocacy efforts must continue, and that presenting directly to the Committee for Health could be a powerful next step. There was also discussion about involving disabled speakers in upcoming parliamentary events to strengthen the case for re-opening the Fund.

7. Sleepover Rates

The discussion around sleepover rates highlighted a disparity between practices in Scotland and Northern Ireland. In Scotland, social care workers are paid the full hourly rate for sleepover shifts, regardless of whether they are actively working or simply present. In contrast, Northern Ireland still operates mainly on a fixed nightly rate, which may fall below the national minimum wage rate depending on the hours worked and the nature of the support provided. The emphasis is placed on the employer determining the nature of the shift.

David emphasised this might leave employers open to accusations of paying employees below the legally required minimum wage as detailed by HMRC and that he was awaiting clarification from Colin about whether the directions from HMRC applied in Northern Ireland.

8. Direct Payment User Group NI and ILF Information

ILF Scotland has recently joined the Direct Payment User Group NI Facebook group. At the request of the Advisory Group, ILF Scotland’s communications team are asked to prepare a post to explain ILF Scotland’s role and clarify that applications are not currently open in Northern Ireland. The aim is to raise awareness without causing confusion or false expectations. Niqi proposed featuring this post prominently on the group page and encouraging users to comment with questions, which would allow ILF Scotland staff to respond directly.

The Group discussed how best to manage ILF-related queries on the page and agreed that ILF Scotland’s communications team should reply to any messages via the ILF Scotland Facebook account. If questions are raised via messages that ILF Scotland is not included in, Niqi / Caroline will alert ILF Scotland’s Communications team. The Group emphasised the importance of clear, accessible communication, especially given the frequent confusion between ILF and Trust-managed direct payments.

9. Terms of Reference

Linda confirmed that the Terms of Reference for the Advisory Group are due for review in December. David raised concerns about the timing of agenda and minute distribution, noting that receiving documents too close to the meeting date makes it difficult to prepare adequately. He proposed that draft minutes be sent to both the Chair and Vice Chair within a month of the meeting and that the draft agenda be sent to both two weeks in advance of the next meeting, allowing for collaborative review and input. Linda will revise the TOR and Lee will circulate to members for any comment prior to review at the December meeting.

Linda agreed and suggested scheduling a short pre-meeting with the Chair and Vice Chair to discuss the agenda and any emerging issues. This approach had worked well in Scotland previously and could help streamline planning and ensure all voices are heard. The Group supported this idea, recognising the need for more timely communication.

10. Any Other Business

It was noted that the transition from Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) to Universal Credit could significantly impact disabled Recipients. Sandra explained that transitional protections exist for current ESA claimants, but new applicants may face reduced support. The Group agreed that ILF Scotland should publish clear guidance on this issue via newsletters, social media, and the website to help Recipients navigate the changes.

Another concern was the growing complexity of award management, especially when family members acting as Award Managers become ill or unable to continue. Sandra shared a brief insight from a recent paper produced by ILF Assessors exploring alternative models, including third-party organisations. However, this option often lacks the depth of involvement provided by family members. David suggested that Microboards should also be considered. The Group acknowledged the need for flexible, sustainable solutions and agreed to keep this issue on the agenda for future meetings.

Actions Points from today’s meeting.

11. Day, Date and Times of Next Meeting

The next meeting was scheduled for Tuesday 9 December 2025, with a proposed earlier start time of 11:30 a.m. The Group discussed the planning for the Christmas lunch, to be held at the Mount, and agreed to confirm dietary requirements in advance. The Group agreed to invite the Minister to the meeting and / or the lunch.

202506 - Northern Ireland Advisory Group Minutes - June 2025

Note of Meeting

Northern Ireland Advisory Group

Tuesday 3 June 2025, 1.00 pm to 3.00 pm
The Mount Conference Centre and via Zoom

Permanent Members Present

David McDonald (Chairperson)
Frances McHugh via Zoom
Michaela Hollywood via Zoom
Caroline Wheeler via Zoom

Affiliate Members Present

Amanda Paul

ILF Scotland Representatives in Attendance

Peter Scott via Zoom
Claire Henry
Harvey Tilley
Emma O’Neill
Karen Burnett via Zoom
Lee House
Sandra Sweeney
Jackie Aitken via Zoom
Brendan Burns

Other

Colin Dunlop via Zoom at P2P
Mark Bates Insurance - Leona

Permanent Members Apologies

Robert Dallas
Niqi Rainey

1. Housekeeping, Welcome, Apologies and Introductions

Lee Informed the Members of the fire exits and confirmed there were no fire drills planned for today.

David welcomed everyone to the Meeting and accepted apologies.

2. Minutes from Previous Meeting

The Group approved the previous Meeting’s minutes. ILF Scotland’s Communications Team will upload to the website.

Actions from previous Meeting

List of Actions:

1. Peter to write to the Minister of Health, inviting him to the Event (Done).

2. David contacts Danny Donnelly to check dates for the 10-year Celebration Event (Done).

3. Lee to schedule meeting to discuss 10-year Celebration Event (Done).

4. Niqi to discuss with Caroline the possibility of Incorporating ILF matters on the Direct Payments Users NI Facebook Group.

5. Communications Team to prepare Question and Answer insert for post to Direct Payments Users NI Facebook Group.

6. Peter to discuss with companies like CILNI about the possibility of cover arrangements for Award Managers if sick.

3. Matters Arising

Brendan joined as a new assessor. Discussion focused on enhancing the Direct Payments Facebook user group to provide comprehensive information about Independent Living Fund (ILF) to over 7,000 members, addressing questions on funding, employment policies, and support. Linda would like to understand the content to be used and shared on the group page. The group agreed that sharing as much about what ILF Scotland does and FAQ to help support any questions. David mentioned explaining what ILF Scotland does, who receives the funding and links to the website policy page. Linda keen to avoid confusion on the page with what the Trust offers with direct payments.

Direct Payments User Group and ILF Information

Caroline and Niqi have admin rights on the Direct Payments Facebook page and plan to add ILF-related content and Q&A to support users.

Users inquire about insurance, hourly rates, holidays, maternity pay, Universal Credit, and conflicting advice from social workers.

Admins manage posts closely to maintain respectful communication and provide peer support, referring complex issues to solicitors and other organisations.

There is a need to clarify distinctions between ILF and Direct Payments to avoid confusion.

Groups like this exist but are less active in Scotland.

Action Items

4. Annual Uplift

ILF uplift of 9.78% is approved, pending final Scottish Government sign-off expected imminently.

Implementation anticipated by end of month, backdated to 1 April.

Delays in trust payments cause budgeting difficulties for recipients.

Uplift applies only to directly employed personal assistants, with a wage cap at £18.53 per hour; self-employed rates differ.

Memorandum of Understanding among ILF Scotland, Northern Ireland, and Scottish Governments signed, enabling progress.

5. Mark Bates Insurance

Employers' Liability Insurance: Covers serious illnesses or injuries occurring because of employment, with policies typically retained for 30-40 years for such latent claims. It also includes protection for incidents caused by employer fault, for example, injuries due to unrepaired hazards.

Public Liability Insurance: Applies outside the home and employment relationship, covering damage or injury caused to third parties, for example a wheelchair accidentally damaging a public member's property.

Property and Workplace Safety: Employer's duty to maintain a safe environment. Issues with housing association properties were raised, highlighting the use of health and safety policies and documentation of efforts to secure timely repairs.

Healthcare Training and Certification: Challenges securing formal recognition or certificates from trusts for PA training were discussed. The insurance perspective requires training to be delivered by a medical or healthcare professional with documentary evidence (email or certificate) including trainer and trainee names, task details, and training date.

Insurance Coverage for Healthcare Tasks: Specific policies exist for healthcare tasks carried out by PAs, with premiums based on the number of trained healthcare PAs. Temporary or bank staff are excluded. Coverage also protects against potential harm PAs could cause to care recipients.

Delegation Panel in Trust (Northern Ireland): Established following advocacy, this panel issues certificates and monitors training, but similar consistent structures are lacking elsewhere in Northern Ireland.

Use of Private Sector Training Providers: Private providers can be accepted if trainers are appropriately qualified healthcare professionals. Virtual training is permissible if the trainer is suitably qualified, though face-to-face is preferred.

Redundancy Cover for PAs: Included in some policies but requires strict adherence to legal processes to avoid employment tribunal risks.

Temporary PA Replacement: Enquiry made about insurance coverage when substituting a PA temporarily, pending further investigation.

Action Items

6. Policy Update including Employer NI, Feedback from ILF Board, Feedback Strategy

Feedback Strategy

Emma sent out a draft to gather feedback.

The first stage was to draft a copy then develop Charter. Working group within casework and assessors to feedback further. The last action is to format statements and gather further feedback to enable them to sign off.

Employment and Payment Challenges

Other Notes

Next Steps

Michaela Hollywood left the meeting 2.30 pm
Leona (Mark Bates Insurance) left the meeting at 2.30 pm.

Board Feedback

Peter advised that the board need to recruitment as are two people short. They would like to recruit from Northern Ireland. This is managed by Scottish Government and not by ILF Scotland. The minister will make the final decision on this post.

The board have invited David and Jim to attend the meeting. The board have been invited the upcoming celebration events.

7. Terms of Reference

Agreed to carry forward to the next meeting.

8. Re-Opening of ILF in NI

Harvey advised the group that a submission has been provided with updated figures and details looking at how the Scotland re-opening has worked. A final proposal is now being worked on to submit to the minister.

9. 10th Year Celebration Event Planning

Discussion focused on organizing the Life Worth Living conference celebrating 10 years of the Independent Living Fund (ILF) Scotland. The event aims to raise awareness about the social and human rights models of disability, showcase successful delivery of ILF grants, highlight their impact on disabled people and their families, and advocate reopening ILF in Northern Ireland. It is scheduled for 3 July in the Great Hall of Parliament Buildings, with attendees including ILF recipients from Northern Ireland, their representatives and personal assistants (PAs), other disabled people, family carers, ministers, politicians, government colleagues, public bodies, and the Third Sector.

Key Decisions

Discussion Topics

Action Items

10. Future Meeting Arrangements

Tuesday 16 September 2025

202503 - Northern Ireland Advisory Group Minutes - March 2025

Note of Meeting

Northern Ireland Advisory Group

Tuesday 4 March 2025, 1.00 pm to 3.00 pm
The Mount Conference Centre and via Zoom

Permanent Members Present

David McDonald (Chairperson)
Niqi Rainey

Affiliate Members Present

Amanda Paul

ILF Scotland Representatives in Attendance

Peter Scott
Harvey Tilley
Emma O’Neill
Karen Burnett via Zoom
Lee House

Other

Colin Dunlop
Aisling McHugh - observing
Greta Gurklyte - observing
June Best - observing

Permanent Members Apologies

Frances McHugh
Michaela Hollywood
Robert Dallas

Affiliate Members Apologies

None

ILF Scotland Representatives Apologies

Linda Scott

List of Actions:

  1. Peter to write to the Minister of Health, inviting him to the Event (Done).
  2. David to contact Danny Donnelly to check dates for the 10-year Celebration Event (Done).
  3. Lee to schedule meeting to discuss 10-year Celebration Event (Done).
  4. Niqi to discuss with Caroline the possibility of Incorporating ILF matters on the Direct Payments Users NI Facebook Group.
  5. Communications Team to prepare Question and Answer insert for possible post to Direct Payments Users NI Facebook Group.
  6. Peter to discuss with companies like CILNI about the possibility of cover arrangements for Award Managers if sick.

1. Housekeeping, Welcome, Apologies and Introductions

Lee Informed the Members of the fire exits and confirmed there were no fire drills planned for today.

David welcomed everyone to the Meeting and accepted apologies.

2. Minutes from Previous Meeting

The Group approved the previous Meeting’s minutes. ILF Scotland’s Communications Team will upload to the website.

Actions from previous Meeting

List of Actions:

1. David to write a letter to the Minster of Health asking him to meet with the Group. (Paused)

2. Sandra to produce practice note on Universal Credit. Lee to email out to Group. (Done)

3. Lee to contact Frances McHugh and ensure he includes her in any mail outs concerning the NI Advisory Group. (Done)

3. Matters Arising

David informed the Group that he had been informed that IMNI are re-structuring at the moment so cannot accept new applications as yet.

David advised the Group that he had sent a copy of instructions, issued by Revenue and Customs concerning the National Minimum Wage and the duties of employers in relation to it and sleepovers, to Colin, asking him to check its relevance to Northern Ireland. He added that the instructions also referenced handovers, travel during work and training. Colin confirmed he will check this for us. Members agreed to discuss this further at future meetings.

Lee confirmed that he has spoken with Frances McHugh to ensure she is included in all papers sent to the Group.

4. Anniversary Celebrations in Northern Ireland

Peter agreed to write to the Minister of Health, inviting him to the Event.

It was agreed that potential dates for the event in June were 18 (preferred) or 11 or 25.

David agreed to contact Danny Donnelly, to check these dates with him.

Peter agreed to arrange a planning meeting with Communications and Senior Management on 1, 8, or 15 April.

5. Re-Opening of ILF in Northern Ireland

Harvey asked Colin when the best time would be to put forward the latest submission from ILF Scotland to the Department of Health.

Harvey explained that the submission has been updated to include relevant key learnings from the re-opening in Scotland but that a barrier at the moment is the first Programme for Government which was only released on the 3 March 2025.

Harvey added that this needs to be approved with budgets and then ILF Scotland would look to submit the re-opening plan.

Colin explained that the Department of Health budget is looking at a £400 million deficit for the coming year, that the ILF Scotland submission will all be about timing and key to this is the learning from the first year of re-opening in Scotland.

Colin added that as it is a new policy decision there must be a consultation, which would last between 8-12 weeks.

Colin confirmed that an initial decision would be made by April this year to decide if the re-opening goes to this next stage, the consultation, and that he would inform the Group of the outcome.

David asked what if the decision was ‘no’ to re-opening?

Peter answered that the sustainability of currently funded Recipients would be hard to maintain but that ILF Scotland would look at the possibility of protecting Recipients if funding stops.

6. ILF Recipients NI

David referred to the Direct Payments User Group NI established by Caroline Wheeler and proposed that a similar group be established for ILF in Northern Ireland to let the Group learn from and react to the views of Recipients and Award Managers and their family carers as well as those not receiving the Fund.

Niqi suggested posting on the Direct Payments User Group itself and agreed to discuss the possibility with Caroline in advance of our next meeting.

Harvey suggested that ILF Scotland's Communications Team could prepare a Question and Answer insert for the posting to help anyone new to ILF.

All agreed that Niqi's and Harvey's suggestions be followed up for the next meeting.

7. Wage Uplift

Peter Informed Members that ILF Scotland and the Northern Ireland Sponsor Team are working on the next uplift in April to be in line with increases to the National Minimum Wage.

Colin confirmed that, from this financial year (2025 to 2026) onwards, the uplift of ILF would happen at the same time as the uplift of Direct Payments.

David asked - could ILF Funding match Direct Payments Funding?

Peter replied that ILF Scotland would require additional funding to enable it to match the Direct Payments rate for everyone.

8. Universal Credit Practice Note

Emma agreed to liaise with Sandra Sweeney to develop a Universal Credit practice note.

9. Policy Update

None.

10. Terms of Reference

Deferred to Next Meeting.

11. Any Other Business

David asked, on behalf of Caroline, what happens if Award Managers are sick, namely, who covers and how is it paid for?

Peter replied that in the past Social Work has taken this on but would no longer do this due to capacity but added that In Scotland there is financial management available, which could take over on a temporary basis and ILF Scotland could pay for this.

Peter agreed to have a discussion with companies like CILNI, to see what options could be available and added that ILF Scotland would make payment for this type of additional support if required.

Emma informed the Group that Linda and she were drafting a feedback strategy which will look at how people interact with ILF Scotland and will be seeking the Group’s feedback.

12. Date & Time of Next Meeting

Tuesday 3 June – The Mount Conference Centre

202412 - Northern Ireland Stakeholder Group Minutes - December 2024

Note of Meeting

Northern Ireland Stakeholder Group

Tuesday 10 December, 11.00 am to 3.00 pm 2024.

The Mount Conference Centre and via Zoom

Permanent Members Present

David McDonald (Chairperson)
Caroline Wheeler
Charles Rainey
Niqi Rainey
Robert Dallas

Affiliate Members Present

Amanda Paul

ILF Scotland Representatives in Attendance

Peter Scott
Harvey Tilley
Linda Scott
Robert White joined at PM via Zoom
Lee House
Karen Burnett via Zoom
Jackie Aitken via Zoom

Other

Colin Dunlop

Permanent Members Apologies

Colette Jones
Michaela Hollywood

Affiliate Members Apologies

None

List of Actions:

  1. David to write a letter to the Minster of Health asking him to meet with the Group.
  2. Sandra to produce practice note on Universal Credit. Lee to email out to Group.
  3. Lee to contact Frances McHugh and ensure he includes her in any mail outs concerning the NI Advisory Group.

1. Welcome, Introductions, Apologies & Housekeeping

David welcomed everyone to the Meeting.

Lee Informed the Members of the fire exits.

2. Minutes from Previous Meeting

The Group approved the previous Meeting’s minutes. ILF Scotland’s Communications Team will upload to the website.

Actions from previous Meeting

List of Actions:

1. Lee / Linda to write to all Permanent Members who have not attended sufficient Group Meetings since before Covid-19 and, in accordance with our Terms of Reference, to ask them to confirm that they no longer wish to remain with the Group. (Done)

2. David to confirm with Kieran that he has formerly stepped down as Vice Chairperson and as a Permanent Member. (Done)

3. Linda/Colin to ask an adviser/expert on Universal Credit to attend an upcoming Stakeholder Meeting. (Pending)

4. David to follow up IMNI membership. (Done)

5. Linda to email out changes to the Terms of Reference for Permanent Members to review and agree, alongside the Group name change & Election of Chairperson and Vice Chairperson, with their respective roles and responsibilities. (Done)

6. Lee to email out Christmas Lunch arrangements. (Done)

3. Matters Arising

Caroline raised a recent review she had attended as Award Manager with reference to night hours. She is of the view that PAs should be paid a minimum of the National Minimum Wage at night. David agreed and referred to HMRC guidance regarding sleepover rates and the consideration employers should give to determining what rate to pay.

David Informed Members that he had contacted Collette, who wishes to remain on the Advisory Group, and Kieran, who has stepped down as a Permanent Member and Vice Chairperson.

David referred to the Event planned for Parliament Buildings In the first week of December and expressed regret at having had to postpone it, a result of his serious ill health over recent months giving no time to plan.

David reported on his attendance at a recent event at Belfast City Hall where he had met Mike Nesbitt, MLA, the Minister of Health, completely by chance and had taken the opportunity to ask for a meeting with him. The Minster had asked David to make a request through his Private Office.

Colin confirmed that the submission on re-opening ILF in NI is almost ready and that it needs financial scrutiny from colleagues, but the plan is that it will be submitted to the Minister prior to Christmas.

David asked Colin did he think it propitious to write to the Minister now, inviting him to meet with the Advisory Group. Colin advised this was the Group’s prerogative and pointed out that it will come to himself in the first instance for a response. The Group agreed a letter be sent.

The Group requested some advice on Universal Credit (UC). Sandra agreed to pick this up and produce a practice note for the next meeting, for the Group to consider before wider circulation to all Award Managers  Charles asked that ILF add examples and an FAQ to its website.

Linda advised the Group that ILF Scotland are producing blogs, case studies and content to raise awareness of the PA role.

4. Hourly Rate Increase

David stated that work is needed between now and April to secure additional funds from the Department of Health NI to enable ILF Scotland to match the Direct Payment (DP) annual rate increase and at the same time. David emphasized the importance of paying the increase from April each year to avoid delay In fulfilling Award Managers' employer responsibilities to increase wages in line with the National Minimum Wage Increase. Caroline pointed out that not everyone has sufficient funds to pay their PAs the preferred rate in advance of getting a backdated payment from ILF Scotland. All the Group agreed that ILF needs to align with the Direct Payment rate as this causes real issues for Award Managers trying to balance the books and backdating causes problems with Universal Credit in some cases.

Colin informed the Group that, In future, ILF annual increases will take place at the same time as Direct Payment annual increases, eradicating the problems described above. The Permanent Members very much welcomed this and David thanked Colin for all his work on this.

David raised the significant disparity between the hourly rate of and means of calculating Direct Payments and the Independent Living Fund and asked could they be aligned. Other Permanent Members concurred and raised concerns that they needed sufficient funds to ensure they as employers were acting legally, paying the proper wage and able to retain and recruit and that receiving a lower rate from ILF Scotland is problematic for Recipients of both trying to retain, recruit and manage at a lesser rate for ILF funded PAs.

Caroline reiterated concerns about paying lower rates at night and whether this was lawful and compliant with HMRC guidance. ILF Scotland confirmed that they are following HMRC advice and to pay everyone an hourly rate for sleepovers would require approval from the NI sponsor team (ILF Scotland don’t have the same permission in NI as they do from the Scottish Government) along with additional funding. Also, whilst there is no legal impediment to paying PAs different wages, ILF staff understand the practical difficulties this can cause Award Managers, which is why ILF assessors have always been able to match the Direct Payment rate as part of review visits. In addition, ILF Scotland confirmed that there are very few people in NI who ILF is only paying the minimum wage because annual percentage increases have been applied each year – 12%, then 4.2%, and now 9.8%, in line with the percentage increase to the National Minimum Wage (NMW).

Linda added that Colin gave approval for the 9.8% increase. However, there appear to be some discrepancies between payments being made to PAs by payroll companies and what ILF Scotland is paying. Staff have been looking into this but are now proposing to apply the 9.8% increase to all directly employed PAs but cap this at £14.10, which is the net equivalent to the current gross Direct Payment rate of £16.88. Anyone already receiving £14.10 or above would not receive an increase this financial year, ending 5th April 2025. In January 2025, ILF Scotland will go through a process of manually checking every award against the amounts made by payroll companies. Since CILNI is the largest provider, ILF Scotland has requested a meeting with them to start this process off. Linda noted that ILF Scotland does not necessarily know which payroll company Award Managers are using unless advised at review or in between reviews.

Niqi enquired about Employers' National Insurance Contributions and whether Award Managers could use accumulated funds to increase PA hourly rates, which her payroll company had advised could not be done. Linda said she was unaware of this and would have to investigate it to understand the issue better. David referenced the increase next financial year (2025/26) to employers National Insurance allowance, which is increasing from £5k to £10k, to help soften the blow to employers of the increase to contributions. Caroline shared that PA employers can claim back equipment and that HMRC have a list of what small employers can claim back through their business.

5. Membership Matters

David confirmed that Kieran has stepped down as Vice Chairperson and from the NI Advisory Group.

David confirmed also that Colette has stated her desire to remain as a Permanent Member. The other Permanent Members present agreed to this and wished her a speedy recovery and return.

Lee informed the Group that Frances has not been in touch. It was agreed that Lee should contact Frances and ensure he includes her in any mail outs concerning the NI Advisory Group.

David asked Lee to clarify who receives draft minutes. Lee confirmed that he sends the draft minutes only to; Amanda, Caroline (Wheeler), Colette, David, Frances, Michaela, Niqi and Robert; together with relevant members of ILF Scotland and the NI sponsor team.

The Permanent Members present extended their congratulations to Michaela on successfully securing a prominent position with CILNI and confirmed that this was no jeopardy to her current Permanent Membership, emphasizing that she is an ILF Recipient, and that any conflict of interest can be addressed within the Group’s Terms of Reference (TOR).

6. Terms of Reference

Permanent Members discussed and agreed unanimously the changes to the Terms of Reference (TOR).

Lee will circulate these to the Group in advance of the next meeting.

7. Election of Chairperson and Vice Chairperson

David accepted his nomination as Chairperson and was elected unanimously.

Caroline accepted her nomination as Vice Chairperson and was elected unanimously.

8. Policy Update

Linda advised there were no new updates on policy but recommended the Group view the email, sent by Lee, regarding revisions made to Policy 41 relating to flexible funding addition.

9. Any Other Business

Peter referred to the ILF Scotland Strategy which expires at the end of March 2025 and to the process of developing a new one and reported that engagement events were positive, albeit with lower numbers but with good input. Harvey detailed the feedback received from the events to date.

Can we have the Transformation Fund in NI?

Lack of, respectively Local Authority and local Trusts’, support universal across both Scotland and NI.

Can ILF re-open in NI?

Can ILF take over Direct Payment provision?

PA recruitment and increasing costs also raised.

Harvey explained that ILF Scotland staff will incorporate all feedback into a report which Linda will circulate to the Group. An in-person event is planned for Feb / March 2025. Peter suggested holding one in Scotland and one in NI.

Post meeting note – the NI event will be held on 4 March to coincide with the next NI Advisory Group Meeting. The one in Scotland is planned for 27 February.

Harvey added that the draft Strategy should be ready by the end of February and signed off for March, ready for publishing in April 2025.

Harvey concluded by confirming that ILF Scotland plans to organise a 10th birthday event in June next year, which will be a one-day event involving Advisory Group Members, of a smaller scale than previous joint stakeholder meetings, one in NI and one in Scotland.

10.  Next Meeting Arrangements

Lee to email out all dates for 2025. Next meeting 4 March 2025.

202409 - Northern Ireland Stakeholder Group Meeting Minutes - September 2024

Permanent Members Present

David McDonald, Chairperson joined via Zoom
Caroline Wheeler
Niqi Rainey
Robert Dallas - join at 12.46 pm

ILF Scotland Representatives in Attendance

Peter Scott
Harvey Tilley
Linda Scott
Robert White - joined via Zoom
Lee House
Karen Burnett via Zoom

Permanent Members Apologies

Frances McHugh
Collette Jones

List of Actions:

  1. Lee / Linda to write to all Permanent Members who have not attended sufficient Group Meetings since before COVID-19, in accordance with our Terms of Reference, to ask them to confirm that they no longer wish to remain with the Group.
  2. David to confirm with Kieran that he has formerly stepped down as Vice Chairperson.
  3. Linda/Colin to ask an adviser/expert on Universal Credit to attend an upcoming Stakeholder Meeting.
  4. David to follow up IMMNI membership.
  5. Linda to email out changes to the Terms of Reference for Permanent Members to review and agree, alongside the Group name change & Election of Chairperson and Vice Chairperson, with their respective roles and responsibilities.
  6. Lee to email out Christmas Lunch arrangements.

1. Welcome, Introductions, Apologies & Housekeeping

David welcomed everyone to the Meeting. Lee Informed the Members of the fire exits.

2. Minutes from Previous Meeting

The Group approved the previous Meeting’s minutes. ILF Scotland’s Communications Team will upload to the website.

List of Actions:

3. Matters Arising

Caroline raised concerns about the continuing delay in increasing the ILF hourly rate for this current financial year and its financially detrimental impact on PAs who are on Universal Credit. Caroline raised concerns also about the misalignment in periods of payment, some being four weekly and others being monthly. Caroline asked for more information on how to manage Universal Credit and these issues. Linda and Colin agreed that they would invite an adviser/expert on Universal Credit to attend an upcoming Meeting.

Niqi referred to the item discussed at the last Meeting about the Stakeholder Group qualifying as a Disabled People’s Organisation (DPO). Niqi said she believed that this might not be possible. Harvey informed the Members that they received no legal advice as yet on this matter, but it had been discussed internally. Linda stated that the Terms of Reference would need to be changed if this was to be actioned. Peter said that he liked the suggestion but the Group would have to be

constituted differently to be a DPO and ILF Scotland would have to make changes firstly before this could happen. Members agreed not to proceed with the matter and remain constituted as they are now.

Linda informed the Members that sending a Representative to the Disability Forum of the Independent Monitoring Mechanism for Northern Ireland (IMMNI) is allowed for in our Terms of Reference. Members agreed to propose that we send a Representative. David agreed to follow this up.

4. Hourly Rate Increase

Linda informed the Members that a submission has been made to the Government in Northern Ireland regarding hourly rate increases, to ensure it is in line with the National Minimum Wage increases, and backdated payments. Colin informed the Members that the submission was currently being considered and a decision was expected to be made later this month.

David remarked that this needs to be actioned in April to allow Recipients and their Award Managers, together with any third parties involved, to comply with their legal obligations to increase PAs wages in line with the National Minimum Wage at the decreed time, usually the beginning of each financial year, namely April. Making the monies available to Recipients and their Award Managers later in the financial year and expecting backdating to be satisfactory causes considerable problems including for PAs in receipt of Universal Credit. Caroline concurred that the payment being made in April is important, for all concerned, not least to keep within the line of the law.

Peter agreed to highlight the Universal Credit issue to Colin when considering the paper for wage increases and payments.

5.  Policy Update

Linda informed the Members that there was not much to update on currently, except that, in Scotland, following the re-opening of the Fund there, a policy change to the maximum award has been made. The maximum award for the re-opened fund is £330 per week.

Linda added that the main focus has been on the re-opening of the Fund in Scotland and ensuring that applications are being completed as promptly and properly as possible.

6. Re-Opening of 2015 Fund Review

Colin Informed the Members that he is currently working with his team to submit the case for re-opening the Fund to the new Minister, Mike Nesbitt, MLA, adding that that submission is due in for consideration this month. David asked had Deena received any reply from the Minister to her second letter to him, which included reference to reopening the Fund. Colin agreed to check if there had been any reply.

7. Terms of Reference

The Members discussed their concerns about the increasingly small number of Members and its impact on having enough of a quorum to make decisions. Linda confirmed that the Group’s Terms of Reference require 5 Permanent Members to be present for a quorum and any decisions to be agreed. Peter informed the Members that the ILF Board Quorum is currently 3. The Members discussed and agreed changing the number for a quorum to 3 also, in order to move ahead effectively.

Linda suggested she send out revised Terms of Reference, with the suggested changes, to enable all Permanent Members, including those not present today, to agree this change by email. The Members present agreed this.

8. Name of Group

Linda Informed the Members that the Advisory Group in Scotland had originally been called the Recipient Advisory Group but had changed this to the ILF Scotland Advisory Group to make it clear that they were not providing advice to recipients. David had suggested NI Advisory Group. Niqi raised a couple of concerns, one being that if someone joining the Group would be committed to giving advice, the other being that the name of the Group could have an impact on attracting members. David expressed concerns that stakeholders implies more than Recipients and Award Managers and was too broad a term for who we are. David added that the only people we are advising as an Advisory Group are ILF Scotland and relevant local Government Representatives. David concluded by pointing out that the Advisory Group in Scotland were not experiencing difficulties by using the name and that, indeed, their Membership had increased.

Robert joined the Meeting.

The Members agreed to change the name to ILF Northern Ireland (NI) Advisory Group.

Linda agreed to send out this change along with the Terms of Reference suggested changes.

9.   Membership Matters

The Members agreed this had been covered in a previous agenda point.

10. Centre for Independent Living NI Proposal

Peter Informed the Members that Deena Nimick had been appointed as Campaigns and Policy Manager for the Centre for Independent Living Northern Ireland (CILNI). David added that it’s Chief Executive Officer, Bryan Myles, who had been an Affiliate Member until recently, had written to the Group asking that consideration be give to Deena taking his place. The Members thanked Bryan and Deena both and wished their thanks recorded but agreed that our Terms of Reference did not allow Deena’s Membership any more than it did Bryan’s, as a representative of an organisation rather than an individual in their own right. David suggested that we consider alternative opportunities to avail of Deena’s and Bryan’s experience, expertise and enthusiasm, which would form part of the Members’ later discussions.

11. Election of Chairperson and Vice Chairperson.

Peter suggested that within other communications to the Group, the description of the roles and responsibilities, as detailed in the Terms of Reference, be included so that Members can review them if considering putting themselves forward for the posts. The Members agreed.

Peter, Harvey and Colin left the Meeting.

12. Christmas Lunch Arrangements

Lee agreed to email out Christmas Lunch details in coming weeks.

13. Disabled People’s Parliament

David Informed the Members about the re-establishment of the Disabled People’s Parliament and asked might they be interested in attending?

The Members agreed their interest in doing so and to attend as either individuals or Members of the Group. David agreed to keep them informed of developments and the next meetings of the Parliament.

14. Re-Opening Of 2015 Fund Again

David raised concerns about the length of time it has taken to try to persuade will Department of Health here to reopen the Fund in NI, the more so since Scotland has reopened Its Fund nearly 9 months ago. David reckoned it will soon be time to escalate matters and wished to suggest the following staged approach:

David Informed the Members that he has invited an MLA to sponsor the event and reserve the Senate Chamber, at Parliament Buildings, Stormont for a 2-hour duration on a Monday or Tuesday in December.

David added that we should invite Jim Elder-Woodward and the Scotland Advisory Group to the event.

Niqi suggested a new Recipient of the re-opened Fund in Scotland make a video or come to the event in person to exhort the impact of now having the funding.

Linda recommended that re-establishing the Working Group be discussed with Colin.

The Members agreed to proceed with all the above in turn as warranted.

15. Promoting PAs

The Members discussed the role that is required of PAs. Caroline stated we need to recognise them as Personal Care Assistants and the difference between a Carer and PA. David recommended that initially the value of the work of PAs paid with Independent Living Funding be the focus. Emma agreed to explore this.

Linda informed the Members that in terms of promoting PAs, ILF Scotland have completed a case study on Joan Turner who is a member of the Scotland Advisory Group. Chloe McKee who is also a member of the Scotland Advisory Group is writing a blog with her PA. Caroline stated she would be happy to take some of this work forward in NI via online discussions. The Members agreed this should be discussed in more detail at the next Joint Stakeholder Meeting which is taking place in Mid-October.

David left the Meeting.

16. Any Other Business

The Members agreed to keep the re-opening of the Fund in NI high on the agenda with an updated submission with the latest figures. Linda agreed to ask Peter and Harvey to follow up.

17. Next Meeting Arrangements

Next Meeting is Tuesday 10 December.

202402 - Northern Ireland Advisory Group Minutes - February 2024 (Easy Read)

Independent Living Fund Scotland

Northern Ireland Stakeholder Group Meeting Minutes

29 February 2024

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Who was at this meeting?

The meeting happened on 29 February from 11am to 3pm.

The meeting happened in 2 ways:

  • on Zoom
  • at the Mount Conference Centre in Belfast

Permanent Members

David McDonald, Chair
Robert Dallas
Niqi Rainey
Frances McHugh (on Zoom)
Caroline Wheeler (on Zoom)

Affiliate Members

Amanda Paul
Bryan Myles

From ILF Scotland

Lee House
Harvey Tilley
Ross Browning

Who could not come to the meeting?

Kieran McCarthy, Vice Chairperson

List of Actions

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  • Lee to send out Policy 28 to all group members
  • David to check on and forward the link to the UK Government / UN Committee Session to Robert and other Members
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  • David to send out his letter to Minister Swann and the Minister's Response

All these actions have been done.

1. Welcome

David welcomed everyone to the meeting.

Lee said where the fire exits are.

2. Minutes of previous meeting

Everyone agreed the Minutes from the last meeting were fine.

The minutes will be put on the ILF website.

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Actions from the last meeting:

There were no actions from the last meeting.

3. Matters arising - what do we need to talk about

David said that Disabled People’s Organisations were going to Geneva, Switzerland for the UK Government session with the UN Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities on 18 March 2024.

The Northern Ireland representatives are:

  • Michael Lorimer who met with us at our last meeting
  • Tony O’Reilly, who was a speaker at our joint Gathering in Stormont in 2019
  • 2 other disabled people who are wheelchair users

Robert asked whether it would be available to watch online or on TV.

David will check and let Robert and the group know.

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David asked that Items 7, 11, 13 and 14 be carried forward to our next meeting to allow enough time to discuss them.

All Members agreed to this.

4. Election of Chairperson and Vice Chairperson

This will happen at the next meeting.

5. Re-Opening of the 2015 Fund in Northern Ireland

Harvey talked about the work being done to make sure the Fund reopens in April 2024.

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6 co-production events have taken place in person and online.

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Information from these events will be in a report for the Minister.

There is now a Government in Northern Ireland.

When the budget is complete, a submission will go to the Minister from the Sponsor Team to re-open the Fund in Northern Ireland, hopefully in the next 4 to 6 weeks.

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If approved, we would then have co-production events across Northern Ireland in the same way as Scotland.

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David has sent a letter to the Minister inviting him to speak at the Joint Stakeholder Event in Edinburgh at the end of March.

David will tell the group when he gets a reply.

Some people are worried that the budget would only be enough for one year of reopening.

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Harvey said that Colin Dunlop discussed this with him and does not think this will affect the reopening of the Fund.

Budgets would be reviewed every year.

6. Joint Stakeholder Event update

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Harvey said a lot of work has happened:

  • the agenda has been agreed
  • accommodation has been arranged for guests
  • arrangements have been made about travel and food requirements
  • presentations are complete
  • we are waiting for some final notes from both Ministers
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Harvey said the event is not a reopening launch but it is about celebrating a life with purpose.

Harvey talked about the agenda and discussed the event at Holyrood.

7. Review visits

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Harvey said the review visits have been slightly delayed across Scotland and Northern Ireland.

The Assessor team are working to deal with this.

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At review visits, people say that recruiting personal assistants, and the cost of living are still making things difficult.

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Harvey said ILF Scotland have taken on new staff.

8. Policy Update suspensions

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Harvey said Policy 38 has been signed off by the Scottish and the NI Government and is on the ILF Scotland website.

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Harvey talked about payment for managing awards.
ILF Scotland cannot do this on their own.

The Government have said this would cost too much.

Caroline asked if we can be paid for attending meetings.

Harvey said that ILF can cover all reasonable costs including travel, food and additional caring costs but cannot pay for attendance at a meeting.

The Government would not support this.

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ILF Scotland will keep looking at how to do this and will report back when any progress is made.

9. Charter for Involvement

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This will happen at the next meeting.

10. Any Other Business

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No one had anything to add.

14. Next Meeting

The next meeting will be on Tuesday 28 May 2024.

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202312 - Northern Ireland Advisory Group Minutes - December 2023 (Easy Read)

Independent Living Fund Scotland

Northern Ireland Stakeholder Group Meeting Minutes

19 December 2023

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Who was at this meeting?

The meeting happened on Tuesday 5 December from 11.30am to 3pm.

The meeting happened in 2 ways:

  • on Zoom
  • at the Mount Conference Centre in Belfast

Permanent Members

David McDonald, Chair
Niqi Rainey
Frances McHugh (on Zoom)
Robert Dallas
Collette Jones
Caroline Wheeler
Kieran McCarthy (on Zoom, left meeting at 12:25)

Affiliate Members

Amanda Paul (left meeting at 13:30)
Bryan Myles

From ILF Scotland

Linda Scott
Lee House
Peter Scott
Harvey Tilley
Robert White

Who could not come to the meeting?

Michaela Hollywood

List of Actions

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  • Linda to share with Bryan the AI / Uplift records of the accounts that Lothian Council for Inclusive Living manage

An uplift is an increase in the level of pay.

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  • Linda will email the group with the main ways that money could be saved when the fund is re-opened
  • Lee will email:

- details of training of PAs to the Stakeholder Group

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Insurance could be invalid if PAs are not trained properly.

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- the link from the ILF Scotland website on Advanced Care Planning to the Group

Advance care planning means making decisions about the care you would want to get if you could not speak for yourself in the future.

  • assessors from Northern Ireland will find recipients to be interviewed by Finbarr as part of the social return on investment evaluation work

A recipient is someone who gets ILF money.

1. Welcome

David welcomed everyone and checked everyone was okay with the meeting sound being recorded.

2. Minutes of previous meeting

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Everyone agreed the Minutes from February 2022 were fine.

The Minutes will be put on the ILF website.

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Actions from the last meeting:

  • Colin and Linda will talk about increasing the rate of PA pay by 12 per cent before April 2023 and backdating the increase to 1 April 2022

This action has happened.

  • Lee will share weblinks from Michaela to the communication team on PA support and training

3. Matters arising - what do we need to talk about

There were no new things we needed to talk about.

4. Re-opening of the 2015 Fund in Northern Ireland

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Harvey said that because there is no Northern Ireland Assembly in place, they do not know if the fund can re-open.

Colin will work on a new proposal to be sent to the Permanent Secretary in April 2024.

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David suggested that people leaving hospital and returning home should be part of the new proposal.

Harvey agreed that this will be included.

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Niqi suggested that it would be a good idea to include information comparing ILF Scotland recipients to non ILF Scotland recipients for how many people had to have a hospital stay, particularly for Covid.

A recipient is someone who gets ILF money.

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Linda said we could give the number of recipients who have advised ILF Scotland of hospital stays but was not sure if they will be able to mention Covid or not.

ILF Scotland will look more at this.

5. ILF Available Income reduction

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Linda confirmed that all uplifts have happened to the new maximum of 43 pounds a week or less.

David thanked Peter, Harvey, Linda and everyone else at ILF Scotland and Mark and Colin at the Department of Health who have worked hard on this.

6. PA increases in wages

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Linda asked the group if they agreed with the way to uplift PA rates by 12 per cent, as agreed between the Department of Health and ILF Scotland.

Any recipient who pays their PA 14 pounds and 75 pence an hour keeps this rate.

Any recipient’s PA who is paid below the national minimum wage will be increased to 9 pounds 50 pence an hour.

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These increases will happen for most recipients by the beginning of April 2023.

The increases may take a bit longer if a recipient is having a review visit or their money has been suspended.

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The Group accepted the proposals and thanked everyone involved at ILF Scotland and the NI Department of Health.

It will make a big difference to hiring and keeping PAs and to all our lives.

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Members asked that future increases happen in time for recipients and Award Managers to increase PA wages on 6 April.

Peter will talk to the Government about this as soon as possible.

7. Review visits

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Robert said that ILF Scotland are behind on review visits because:

  • it is complicated to hire and keep PAs
  • assessors are finding it difficult to have social workers at review visits
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Urgent reviews will always happen first.

Robert will keep giving the Group information about this.

8. Stakeholder / Advisory Group meeting

Harvey said we must send a proposal to the Scottish Government before ILF Scotland can plan a joint event.

David will invite the Permanent Secretary of the NI Department of Health.

A working group will start in April or May with members from Scotland and Northern Ireland to plan the event for September or October.

9. Advanced Care Planning

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Linda said that ILF Scotland has added information about advanced care planning to its website.

10. PA training programme

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David asked that we talk about this at the next meeting so Michaela can be there.

11. Supporting Award Managers / Third Party payroll

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Peter said the Department of Health are looking at this and Colin will then give an update to the Stakeholder Group.

12. Charter for Involvement and ILF Scotland meetings

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Emma will arrange a working group to decide what work is the most important.

Linda said that ILF Scotland are looking at what recipients said in feedback surveys and this will be linked into the Charter.

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Linda said that working groups will be arranged to start in the first 3 months of 2024. ILF Scotland will publish an updated action plan in April 2024.

13. Any Other Business

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No one had anything to add.

14. Next Meeting

Lee will check potential dates with The Mount and will send out ‘save the dates’ emails to Group members.

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202309 - Northern Ireland Advisory Group Minutes - September 2023 (Easy Read)

Independent Living Fund Scotland

Northern Ireland Stakeholder Group Meeting Minutes

19 September 2023

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Who was at this meeting?

The meeting happened on 19 September from 11.30am to 3pm.

The meeting happened in 2 ways:

  • on Zoom
  • at the Mount Conference Centre in Belfast

Permanent Members

David McDonald, Chair
Caroline Wheeler
Niqi Rainey
Robert Dallas
Frances McHugh (on Zoom)

Affiliate Members

Amanda Paul
Bryan Myles

From ILF Scotland

Elizabeth McGarrity
Harvey Tilley (on Zoom)
Lee House
Linda Scott
Peter Scott (on Zoom)
Robert White
Sandra Sweeney

Department of Health Representatives in Attendance

Colin Dunlop

Other Attendees

Danny Donnelly (MLA)
Finbarr Fitzpatrick (Bis improvement)
Jack Armstrong (Policy & Research Officer for Danny Donnelly)
Mervyn Bothwell (NISCC)

Who could not come to the meeting?

Collette Jones
Kieran McCarthy (Vice Chairperson)
Michaela Hollywood

List of Actions

  • Lee will use a new way to arrange future meetings and not use doodle polls
  • Lee to re-send links from Michaela to Stakeholder Group about PA support and the future landing programme
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  • Lee to send the presentation out on PA support and training from Mervyn Bothwell (Complete)

These 3 actions have happened.

  • assessors from Northern Ireland will find recipients to be interviewed by Finbarr as part of the social return on investment evaluation work

A recipient is someone who gets ILF money.

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A social return on investment looks at the benefits of a project that are not just about money.

For example it could support people’s wellbeing, or help to reduce inequality.

1. Welcome, introductions, apologies and housekeeping

David welcomed everyone to the meeting and said when guests would be taking part in the meeting.

Lee explained where the fire exits are.

2. Minutes of previous meeting

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David asked that the minutes have more detail about who is giving information and speaking at the meeting.

The minutes of the last meeting were approved and the ILF Communications Team will put them on the website.

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Actions from the last meeting:

  • Colin and Linda to talk about putting the PA rate up by 12 per cent before April 2023 and backdating it to 1 April 2022.
  • Lee to share links from Michaela to the communication team on PA support and future landing programme.

Both these actions have been done.

3. Matters arising - what do we need to talk about

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Niqi asked if the Charter for Involvement meetings were going ahead.

Linda said this is on the agenda for the meeting.

4. Re-opening of the 2015 Fund in Northern Ireland

David is pleased that the Fund in Scotland will re-open in April 2024.

Colin said there is still no Minister and no Executive in the Northern Ireland Department of Health.

Colin has spoken with Jack Blaik and will finish information for the Department of Health about:

  • the work being done by the Scottish Government to have the Fund re-opened
  • there is likely to be pressure to re-open in Northern Ireland

Caroline said that disabled people in Northern Ireland would not get the same amount of funding as Scotland.

Robert and Niqi supported this statement and agreed with David’s suggestion of writing to the Permanent Secretary.

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David said we must:

  • raise the re-opening of the Fund with all the main political parties in Northern Ireland
  • get re-opening included in the Programme for Government
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The Group agreed that David would invite the Permanent Secretary to a meeting to discuss the re-opening of the Fund.

David talked about a report about the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities.

The report mentions the ILF and that it needs to re-open.

David will give more information about the UN Convention at the next meeting.

The UN Convention and how it links to the Fund, will be discussed later in this meeting.

David will include the UN Convention in his letter to the Permanent Secretary.

Peter said that feedback from Scottish Government showed that the main things affecting the Fund reopening included:

  • ILF Scotland has a good reputation and people are confident that it can do the work
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  • DPOs lobbying – this means DPOs trying to get a politician to support the campaign to reopen the Fund
  • demand for ILF Scotland to reopen as part of the Shadow Geneva Report

David suggested that Group members might link with members of other organisations they know.

5. Social Return on Investment valuation

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Finbarr talked about the research so far.

The evaluation from 4 years ago will be updated to include the cost-of-living crisis and the COVID-19 pandemic.

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Finbarr has had 3 interviews with recipients and has 2 more planned in the coming weeks.

So far, people have had good experiences and have coped during the Covid pandemic.

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Linda asked the Stakeholder Group to get in touch with Finbarr if they want to be interviewed for the research.

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Finbarr explained that themes coming through the research so far include:

  • how Covid affected people’s health
  • keeping PAs
  • being able to work flexibly using the furlough scheme
  • the good impact that ILF Scotland has

Finbarr said the report will be finished by the end of October 2023.

6. Policy Update - Suspensions

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Linda said that funding may be suspended for different reasons and sometimes can be permanently closed.

The proposed change in policy would mean that an award would stay suspended but could be re-started if applicants are still eligible.

The policy also means that ILF Scotland can pay awards after 28 days if recipients in hospital need support from their PA or support provider, up to 6 months.

After 6 months each case will be looked at individually.

Both sponsor teams have agreed the proposals in the revised draft.

The draft is now out for consultation with the Stakeholder and Advisory Groups.

David said the policy should be clearer about who contacts ILF Scotland to advise of hospital stays.

Linda asked members to email any comments to her.

Caroline talked about self-employed PAs and private providers charging a ‘private’ rate to Recipients of £18 per hour.

Linda will talk about this with Robert White.

Niqi asked how strict ILF were at applying the Threshold Sum.

Linda said the rules had relaxed in the Covid pandemic but that assessors are now making sure that Trusts follow the rules.

Caroline talked about Direct Payments and the cost of daycare.

7. Supporting Award Managers / Third Party Payroll

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Colin is waiting for information about this.

He will update the Group as soon as he can.

This will be on the agenda for the next meeting.

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Caroline commented on the amount of time, effort, and money she spends on admin tasks about the PAs that care for Lee.

This affects the amount of time she can spend with Lee.

8. UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities

David introduced Jack Armstrong.

Jack is the policy and research officer for Danny Donnelly - MLA for East Antrim.

They are looking at proposals for a Private Members Bill for when there is a new Assembly in place.

They want the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities to be put into domestic law.

They are hoping that the new Minister will include this in the next Programme for Government.

David said:

  • this must be about much more than just accessibility for disabled people
  • it should also consider the right to independent living
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David raised issues about:

  • travel accessibility
  • complex assistance
  • additional funding needed for severely disabled people
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Niqi said there is a great loss to society if disabled people are not included.

Caroline said that:

  • the voices of disabled people and their loved ones are not being heard
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  • the Government does not recognise the contribution of unpaid carers and that social care would fold without this.

David reminded the Group that:

  • Article 19 of the Convention must be used to push for ILF re-opening
  • carers are getting older and are worried about the future care of their loved ones

Bryan asked how the bill was being promoted and if all political parties were supporting this submission.

Jack said this is part of an Alliance Manifesto and that:

  • they are working on what it will say
  • promotion will be important

They will use the group that Danny sits on and consultation to help with this.

Danny introduced himself and asked for feedback on what should be in his submission to the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities.

He gave the history of the Fund and noted that ILF reopening was not in the Manifesto.

David said that:

  • Article 19 is very important to the ILF
  • how important it is that our most severely disabled people can get out and about and be heard

Amanda spoke about how she relies on unpaid care because paid care just ‘gets her up’.

Caroline said:

  • there are 3 hundred and 60 thousand unpaid carers in Northern Ireland and they need time to themselves
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  • ILF is empowering and gives disabled people and their families a quality of life
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We must get the bill passed so that ILF is reopened and people get quick assessments.

David said this must happen in a way that protects disabled people’s rights.

Danny agreed that it is about being treated with dignity as equal citizens.

Niqi said it is about the right to be independent and have choice and control in your life.

We take that for granted but disabled people should have this too and it is so much cheaper to have people at home than in care.

Caroline said it is positive to have disabled people as part of the community.

Niqi said that all ILF funding is used to support disabled people.

9. Joint Stakeholder Meeting Update

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Members are disappointed the joint event in October had to be rescheduled.

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Linda said sorry and that:

  • Harvey had sent out a letter explaining why the event was postponed
  • she will set up a planning meeting soon

10. Review Visit Update

Liz said there are 2 assessors for Northern Ireland.

Sandra Sweeney will now be supporting in a management capacity.

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Linda spoke about:

  • all Trust areas are finding it difficult to get day care
  • getting information for care schedules
  • how difficult it is for recipients to keep PAs

Caroline said:

  • PAs need £15 an hour
  • it is difficult it is to get PAs trained and to keep them
  • Trusts will not train one PA but employers cannot wait for group training

11. PA training programme

Mervyn shared a presentation about free learning for PAs.

He advised about access to the app and where to find more information.

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Niqi asked:

  • if there was a cost to register with the Northern Ireland Social Care Council
  • if it would be possible to have a separate section for PAs

Mervyn said it costs £30 to register.

Mervyn said safe practice modules are being introduced next year for social care workers.

Mervyn said safe practice modules are being introduced next year for social care workers.

They must do these in the first 6 months of employment.

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Some PAs may be family members.

Lee will share the presentation and video with the Stakeholder Group.

12. Charter for Involvement

Linda said:

  • Emma is off sick and the meetings would happen when she comes back, hopefully in October
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We only need 1 or 2 meetings to:

  • look at what work has happened
  • decide the order that the work must be finished

Recipient feedback will be discussed at the meetings.

It was stopped because of Covid-19 and has not re-started.

There is a link between the Charter for Involvement and ILF Scotland’s Equalities statements, which need to be renewed in April 24.

13. Terms of Reference and Membership

David suggested that:

  • Amanda can be a member and also represent The Omnibus Partnership
  • we could invite Michael Lorimer to be an Affiliate Member

Michael is Chairperson of the Independent Monitoring Mechanism for Northern Ireland.

This is the organisation that checks how the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities will be followed here.

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David suggested that the Stakeholder Group become a Disabled Person’s Organisation (DPO).

Everyone agreed to David’s suggestions.

Frances asked for all Group members to lobby other groups as well as their MLAs.

Peter wants to think more about the Group becoming a DPO.

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David asked that the Terms of Reference be checked at the next meeting.

We must look at the quorum and those members not attending.

A quorum is the smallest number of people who must be at a meeting for it to take place.

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Linda will draft a letter for David to tell members they will be removed from the group if they have not attended in the last year.

People will have a chance to respond.

Everyone agreed to this.

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David asked members to think about changing the name to Advisory Group, like Scotland.

This will be on the agenda for the next meeting.

13. Any Other Business

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Bryan said his organisation is having an event at the Stormont Hotel on 7 November.

All Stakeholder Group members and ILF Scotland staff are welcome to attend.

14. Next Meeting

Next meeting - Tuesday 5 December at the Mount Conference Centre where a Christmas lunch will be provided.

The meeting will also be on Zoom.

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202402 - Northern Ireland Advisory Group Minutes - February 2024

Note of Meeting
Northern Ireland Stakeholder Group Meeting

Thursday 29 February 2024, 11am to 3pm
The Mount Conference Centre and via Zoom

Permanent Members Present

Affiliate Members Present

ILF Scotland Representatives in Attendance

Permanent Members Apologies

List of Actions:

1. Welcome, Introductions, Apologies & Housekeeping

David welcomed everyone to the meeting.

Lee advised of the fire exits.

2. Minutes from Previous Meetings

The Group approved the previous meeting’s minutes. ILF Scotland’s Communications Team will upload to the website.

Actions from previous meeting
None

3. Matters Arising

David referred to Item 8 and explained that Disabled People’s Organisations were returning to Geneva, Switzerland for the UK Government Session with the UN Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities on Monday, 18 March 2024. He added that the NI Representatives were Michael Lorimer, who met with us at our last Meeting, Tony O’Reilly, who had been a speaker for us at our joint Gathering in Stormont in 2019, and two other disabled people, both wheelchair users. Robert asked whether it would be available to watch online or on TV. David replied that he would check and let him, and the other Members of the Group know.

David asked that Items 7 (Disabled People’s Organisation Proposal) 11 (PA Training Programme) 13 (Terms of Reference) and 14 (Membership) be carried forward to our next Meeting, to allow sufficient time to discuss especially arrangements around our Joint Gathering in Edinburgh Scotland. All Members agreed this.

4. Election of Chairperson and Vice Chairperson

Carried forward to next meeting.

5. Re-Opening of the 2015 Fund in Northern Ireland

Harvey advised the group of the latest update with the re-opening in Scotland and the work currently being completed to open on the 1 April 2024. He advised that six co-production events have taken place in person and online. The feedback from these events has been collated and a report is currently being produced for submission to the Minister. Harvey advised that ILF in Scotland is on track to re-open in April 2024.

Harvey noted that the Government in Northern Ireland has been formed and that the budget process is currently ongoing and will be confirmed shortly. Once the budget is complete, a submission will go to the Minister from the Sponsor Team to re-open the Fund in Northern Ireland, hopefully within the next 4 to 6 weeks. If approved, we would then undertake co-production events across Northern Ireland similar to the process followed in Scotland.

David advised the Group that he has sent a letter to the Minister inviting him to join us and speak at the Joint Stakeholder Event in Edinburgh at the end of March. David will share the response with the Group once received. David mentioned that there was a worry that the budget would only be sufficient to support one year of re-opening from the Government. Harvey advised that Colin Dunlop discussed this with him and is confident this should not affect the re-opening and budgets would be reviewed on a yearly basis.

6. Joint Stakeholder Event Update

Harvey advised the Stakeholder Group that a large amount of work has taken place with a set agenda agreed, and accommodation being arranged for guests. The final preparations are ongoing with individual members on travel and food requirements. The presentations are complete, and we are waiting for some final notes from both Ministers in preparation for the event. Harvey re-iterated that the event is not a re-opening launch but rather celebrating a life with purpose. Harvey ran through the agenda and discussed the event at Holyrood.

7. Review Visit Update

Harvey advised that the review visits have been slightly delayed across Scotland and Northern Ireland. The Assessor team are working to address this. PA recruitment and cost of living is still a challenge at review visits.

Harvey advised that ILF Scotland have taken on new staff for now and the future re-opening.

8. Policy Update Suspensions

Harvey advised that Policy 38 has now been signed off by both the Scottish and the NI Government and ILF Scotland has published it on its website.

Harvey then went on to talk about payment for managing awards. As this has implications across the Health and Social Care landscape, we (ILF Scotland) are unable to do this in isolation. The feedback from Government, is this is not on the agenda as the costs would be prohibitive at this time.

Caroline asked Harvey to confirm if we can be paid for attending meetings. Harvey replied that ILF can cover all reasonable costs including travel, food and additional caring costs but are unable to pay for attendance. The reason for this is it would impact across Government in every forum where lived experience is asked for (not just limited to Health and Social Care). From a Governmental perspective, this is not something that at present could be supported even for ILF Scotland in isolation. Harvey added that ILF Scotland will continue looking at any possibilities of doing this within its current structures and will report back as and when any progress is made.

9. Charter for Involvement

Carried forward to next meeting.

10. Any Other Business

None

11. Proposed Next Meeting and Arrangements

Tuesday 28 May 2024

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